
Today’s prompt is to talk about the pros and cons of anything and to enjoy!
Pros and Cons. It just so happens that I’m scheduled to be a speaker at an on line Braver Angels debate about statues and monuments. The debate “resolution” is this: “Removing statues and monuments will erase important periods of our parts of our country’s history.”
I am speaking for three minutes on the “con” side, disagreeing with the statement. Maybe I will share my notes in a later post, but history still stands and the confederate glorifying statues can go to a museum. We can’t change the past, but as Maya Angelou said, “…when we know better, we do better.”
The “pro” side, that removing the monuments will erase parts of our history, is hard for me to understand. But I will do my best to listen. I think there might be some fear that if we remove some statues, people will want to remove all kinds of statues, like Abraham Lincoln. But for me, it boils down to, what are the values and memories we want to promote. What parts of history do we want to glorify? Who do we want to admire, not just remember.
Braver Angels seeks to depolarize America by helping people listen to each other and try to understand which often leads to finding common ground, especially when we speak from experience, from our hearts.
I may be able to use these skills on a personal issue I’m working on. It’s something that upsets me very much when I let myself think about it….
Along with some other church members, I’ve been taking care of two cats who have lived at my church for at least four years. The younger cat, Gray, disappeared in early June while I was out of town. I know she was being fed. We figured she might have just found another home. I should not have been so…. naive…. ? lazy? distracted. But I’m not sure if it would have made a difference if I had started looking for her sooner.
In July, I heard someone in the neighborhood was feeding cats and felt hopeful she had just moved on her own. I put out flyers with her picture at the houses surrounding the church. That night one of the neighbors called me and told me they had called a wildlife removal person about some possums and he had also trapped my cat and taken her somewhere. “She’s okay,” he said, he just took her….. out of the city…. ” I don’t remember his exact words.
I was able to get the contact info on this wildlife removal guy and he admitted to trapping a cat at that location but said he didn’t remember where he let her go. He mentioned a farm in the next county and that sometimes he gives them to old folks. But he would not be more specific. The weird thing was that he seemed like he was trying to be nice, then the call was ? disconnected? ended abruptly. He called me back and asked me if I could take cats in my city that he catches….. It was rather bizarre. But I tried to build rapport to try to get him to tell me where he took Gray.
So, I’ve been working on this from various angles and have gotten a lot of support from cat people on FB who are angry… I can work on it for specific periods of time, then I become emotionally overwhelmed and have to take a break. I feel like I’m venting to you and could go on, but that’s probably enough for now. There have been some interesting developments…..
I ask that you please join me in sending good thoughts, prayers or wishes for Gray to be safe and loved.
Here’s a photo of her in the church courtyard with her Mama Cat who is still there at the church and doing okay, but misses her girl a lot.


I’ve written about our little feral colony over the years. Like here in 2016.
They’re not so feral anymore. But Gray is a good hunter. Maybe she’s okay.
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August 15, 2020 at 12:43 am
Very interesting. I understand only too well the getting overwhelmed bit.
August 15, 2020 at 9:57 am
Thank you for your understanding.
August 15, 2020 at 1:27 am
Maya Angelou was and always will be,
A great symbol of Forgiveness,
It will be good if the thoughts,
Can evolve around forgiveness,
It will also be a tribute to Maya Angelou!!
August 15, 2020 at 9:56 am
Thank you for this awareness. Until this moment, I have not let the possibility of forgiveness enter my mind on the matter of Gray. Besides forgiveness for the people who trapped her, there is forgiveness for myself for not acting sooner. You have nudged me to look out that window, maybe crack the door a tiny bit. I am resistant. It will take some time, but I understand the process.
August 15, 2020 at 4:41 am
I wish you well with your debate and hope Gray is OK
August 15, 2020 at 9:49 am
Thank you very much, Derrick for your good hopes and wishes.
August 15, 2020 at 4:50 am
I do hope that Gray is OK and good luck with your debate. đŸ™‚
August 15, 2020 at 9:36 am
Thank you, Janet. I appreciate you good wishes.
August 15, 2020 at 11:06 am
It’s a shame he didn’t know to leave the cat. I won’t comment on the other arguments.
August 15, 2020 at 7:42 pm
It is a shame. I’m curious about your perspective on the other issues you if you want to share something. I also understand that when we feel strongly about something, it can be a challenge. I trust your judgment.
August 15, 2020 at 11:33 am
I have the same pros and cons when it comes to historic statues. In Canada we shouldn’t glorify our colonial past: we cheated and massacred the Indigenous who already lived here. But this IS what happened. This is part of our history. We can’t or shouldn’t erase it. We have to admit to the injustice and make it right. Reconciliation doesn’t have to be money; it can be as simple as an apology and making everything an even playing field for all.
You don’t see Germany hiding the concentration camps; they leave them as memorials to remind people; never let it happen again.
August 15, 2020 at 7:52 pm
Thank you for sharing your perspective.
I’m only recently coming to realize what Mt. Rushmore in the US represents to indigenous people. But that is too big to move. I don’t think we should destroy statues and we definitely should not try erase history. I agree that the concentration camps should remain with understanding. I think a monument that just states the facts of what happened is good. Statues seem to glorify.
August 15, 2020 at 12:11 pm
I grew up in the south (although maybe not the DEEP south) and I am all for removing the statues and relocating them to a museum for purposes of learning. I was sad to read about Gray. Reading the story, I wondered if the animal control guy might have kept her.
August 15, 2020 at 10:13 pm
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Maggie. The wildlife agent said he couldn’t have animals because his grandson is allergic. He shared bits of information like this, perhaps to be cordial, but he still said he couldn’t remember where he took Gray. I appreciate your support.
August 15, 2020 at 12:59 pm
Something tells me Gray is all right, wherever she is.
August 15, 2020 at 10:14 pm
Thank you, John. That is comforting and I needed to “hear” it tonight. I have to give at least equal time to that possibility.
August 16, 2020 at 10:58 am
Who knows? Maybe someone adopted her and made her an inside cat, and she’s lying in the person’s lap as we speak….
August 17, 2020 at 5:06 pm
Oh, what a lovely thought and image. Thank you, so much John.
August 15, 2020 at 1:00 pm
I am also a promoter of the idea of putting statues in museums. That is the correct setting to promote their historical value but not flaunt them in an inappropriate way. I am so sorry to hear about your missing cat. I would miss my Push-Push if she went missing.
August 15, 2020 at 10:39 pm
Thank you for your support, Roberta. It means a lot.
August 15, 2020 at 3:24 pm
I support the work you’re doing at Braver Angels. As a nation, we have become so polarized that it has become increasingly difficult for us to listen to each other and find common ground. All the best with your debate.
August 15, 2020 at 10:42 pm
Thanks, Rosaliene. It’s not easy to listen and find that common ground when we feel strongly or emotional about something, but it is possible. I appreciate your support.
August 16, 2020 at 2:06 pm
We women are all in this together, whether we acknowledge this or not.
August 17, 2020 at 5:08 pm
“…. whether we acknowledge it or not” is a perspective that I had not thought consciously. But I agree.
August 15, 2020 at 5:21 pm
I hope the cat stays okay….
August 15, 2020 at 10:45 pm
Thank you, Eliza. Hope is important. I appreciate yours.
August 15, 2020 at 5:51 pm
I was so attached to our cat, Angel, so I can relate to how you feel about Gray. It would have upset me very much too if someone caught Angel and then released her out in who knows where.
August 16, 2020 at 12:40 am
Thank you for your understanding and caring, Deborah.
August 16, 2020 at 3:14 am
Like you, I have long taken the stance that history isn’t going anywhere … it is recorded for all to know and hopefully to learn from without the constant reminder of statues that are offensive. In fact, I don’t see a real purpose in statues at all, but to enshrine those who enslaved our ancestors is unconscionable.
The story of Gray breaks my heart!!! I do so hope you find him (her?) … please do keep us updated. I shall keep my fingers crossed!
August 17, 2020 at 1:43 pm
Thank you for your support, Jill. I’ll keep everyone posted on my Gray Girl as I call her.
August 16, 2020 at 9:16 am
[Your “like” button is hiding from me]. I hope Gray is okay. Praying for your peace over the matter. I’m looking forward to your notes on the “debate.”
August 17, 2020 at 1:58 pm
The ‘Like’ button hid from me too!!!
August 17, 2020 at 5:10 pm
Oh no. I’m being told it could be due to my theme being “retired” and not compatible…. Probably a new theme coming soon.
August 18, 2020 at 2:26 pm
So nice of WordPress to let you know in advance that they were ‘retiring’ your theme! I hope you are able to find a new theme that you like!
August 18, 2020 at 8:17 pm
Thanks, Jill. I sometimes miss things, but I think I would have remembered if they told me.
August 19, 2020 at 2:50 pm
They never give us warning of changes … they just implement them and then tell us to “get over it”, like this new ‘block editor’ that is giving me headaches!
August 19, 2020 at 10:12 pm
I’ve been muddling through it. I hope the headache goes away soon.
August 19, 2020 at 7:49 pm
Yay! I’m not alone! LOL!
August 19, 2020 at 10:24 pm
I hope it’s fixed now.
August 17, 2020 at 4:46 pm
Thank you, Chandra. I’ve been chatting with WP people with some issues about my buttons not working. One problem might be that my theme has been “retired.” I don’t know.
August 19, 2020 at 7:48 pm
It seems the button works for some people, so that’s weird. I wonder if it’s my computer???
August 19, 2020 at 10:22 pm
I don’t think it’s your computer.
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